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Why not work together with Google?

Google is one of the most prestigious and innovative companies around. Wouldn’t it make sense for Google to take up the idea of digital abundance and embed Quantified Prestige in their services? Or just launch to a Quantified Prestige service? Perhaps even initiate a decentralized version of Quantified Prestige?

Or would it be a better idea to pitch QP to Alphabet, the successor company of Google, and a radical idea implementation factory?

Would the idea of the main company developing Quantified Prestige being not a for-profit company be important enough to keep it distinct from Google and Alphabet? Or do have Google and Alphabet shortcomings that a new emerging “unicorn startup” could avoid? Would people appreciate a new company competing against Google and Facebook, if it promised to make things much better and make almost everything free, while avoiding the problems of making revenues though advertisements?

If you had to start a company that you knew would become as large as Google or even larger, what would you try to make better? What would you copy from Google’s approach?

Google is working under existing incentive structures which would discourage experimentation which may pose a risk to existing services under their business model, there are too many complicating regulatory factors with quantified prestige for any large, embedded player.

Besides, what makes you think that Google would be friendly to ideas of techno-progressivism? Every since Android, they have been centralizing all info acquired through Google Services, creating an asymmetric power differential through mass surveillance. Their acquisition of Boston Dynamics seems particularly positioned to serve a mechanized defense sector with little human input. You may have also noticed they dropped their motto “Don’t be Evil”. This transition of power from the democratic to the technocratic elite stands in stark contrast to principles of social futurism. We need a future where technology empowers everybody, and I don’t think that can come from making an appeal to Google.


I’m not sure about that. How would Quantified Prestige disrupt Google’s current business models? Incomes through reputation and incomes through advertisement seem to be rather compatible to me. Google is giving a lot of stuff away “for free”.

Google is clever. If the really wanted, they could probably somehow navigate around most complicating regulatory factors. Or are you referring to something specific that you have in mind that could be a total show-stopper?

Does that even matter? Google is a corporation, and corporations seek money. When they realize that they could make tons of money with QP, they will be eager to implement a system like that. The problem is that they might mess it up seriously.

Yes, that’s scary. Google already has a lot of centralized power. By driving the global reputation economy, it would become even more powerful. Which is something we most probably don’t need. And that’s probably the most important reason for me not to cooperate with Google closely.

That may be the case, but what do you suggest doing against it?

My part of the data(me and others who have pretty much opted out of Google and it’s tracking fetish) whole in big data is or could be just a drop in the bucket or maybe I hope a dribble stream but I think Google isn’t getting my data now at least as easy as they used to get it. I know with Tor and Duck Duck unless I am completely deluding myself I think I am at least trying to support privacy rights more now than when Google was my usual first lookup. As I continue to find out more with the help of big data and better tool analytics some or all of my fear and anxiety can be assuaged by being more situation-ally aware and acting accordingly.

And what kind of difference does that make exactly? How would the world become a better place, if everyone tried to make it hard for Google and other big corporations or agencies to collect data?

Why do you think it’s important to support privacy rights? I think it would be more helpful to focus on making the big players more transparent.

That sounds very interesting. What big data and analytics tools do you use?