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Manual Esteem Tables

Getting people to use a radically new system like QP is probably one of the biggest hurdles to turning it into a real thing. It’s inevitable that someone needs to start actually using it. So, I will do the first step here. I will start with a simple “table” of names and Esteem Points.

If Quantified Prestige was already established and ruled the world, how would I allocate my Esteem Points? I’m assuming that the QP system is mature enough to allow meaningful allocation of Esteem Points to individuals as well as organizations as well, and that it generates reputation incomes for them.

My first task is to distribute 12000 Esteem Points among individuals, products, and networks/organizations in a meaningful way. It seems to be too hard to do that directly, so I need to create different categories. Each category will get a certain budget of EPs, which is then distributed between the individuals, products, and networks/organizations falling into that category.

Coming up with meaningful categories is difficult and highly subjective. My first ranking may not be the most rational one, but at least it’s a first start.

  1. Transhumanism: 2000
  • Reputation economy: 1500
  • Basic income advocacy: 1500
  • Effective altruism: 1200
  • Open source software: 1200
  • Health: 800
  • Personal development: 800
  • Education: 800
  • Art: 800
  • Fractal Future: 600
  • Entities I like: 400
  • Uncategorized: 400

You should be easily able to verify that these points add up to 12000, the default number of Esteem Points in the QP system – at least once I finished distributing all my points, which is still a work in progress.

1. Transhumanism: 2000 points

  1. Aubrey de Grey: 400
  • Ben Goertzel: 300
  • Eric Drexler: 200
  • David Pearce: 200
  • Ray Kurzweil: 150
  • James Hughes: 100
  • C. James Townsend: 100
  • Amon Twyman: 100
  • Nicola “Socrates” Danaylov: 80
  • David Orban: 60
  • Nick Bostrom: 50
  • David Wood: 50
  • Anders Sandberg: 40
  • Max More: 40
  • Dirk Bruere: 40
  • Chris Monteiro: 40
  • Samantha Atkins: 25
  • Khannea SunTzu: 25

Sum: 2000 points

2. Reputation economy: 1500 points

  1. Backfeed: 1000
  • Satoshi Nakamoto: 200
  • Ethereum: 200
  • Cory Doctorow: 100

Sum: 1500 points

Basic income advocacy: 1500 points

  1. Scott Santens: 800
  • Götz Werner: 400
  • Basic Income Earth Network: 200
  • Guy Standing: 100

Sum: 1500 points

Effective altruism: 1200 points

  1. Centre for Effective Altruism: 500
  • Animal Charity Evaluators: 400
  • Peter Singer: 200
  • Effective Altruism Forum: 100

Sum: 1200 points

Open source software: 1200 points

  1. GNU/Linux: 300
  • Discourse: 300
  • WordPress: 200
  • Apache Software Foundation: 150
  • Open Source Initiative: 100
  • Richard Stallman: 100
  • Donald Knuth: 50

Sum: 1200

Health: 800 points

  1. Life Extension Foundation: 350
  • Ashok Gupta: 250
  • Dr. Sarah Myhill: 100
  • Dr. Bärbel Renz: 50
  • Andrew W. Saul: 25
  • Dr. Julian M. Whitaker: 25

Personal development: 800 points

Education: 800 points

Art: 800 points

  1. Greg Egan
  • Karl Schroeder
  • Akira Toriyama
  • Tara Strong

Fractal Future: 600 points

Entities I like: 400 points

Uncategorized: 400 points


What has Samantha Atkins done for the cause?
Why don’t I get any points?

LOL, Moriarty is butthurt

Transhumans don’t get butthurt

My conclusion is that doing QP manually is too bothersome; so bothersome that’s not even worth it. Creating and updating the scores just takes too much effort – even for me. A much simpler system is needed to generate and update the Esteem Points.

Generating Esteem Points in a convenient and intelligent way seems to be a critical core problem of QP.

A system like this needs to have two separate interaction displays:

  1. A complex overview display of all the Esteem Points you have allocated. The main allocation table is perhaps ideally represented as a pie chart with the areas of the chart representing the amount of EPs allocated to various entities. If one of those entities is a allocation subtable, the representing piece of the chart has one single colour in the middle, and various colours on the outside, each of those colours representing the subentities of the subtable. The subtable piece of the chart is also displayed as another, smaller pie chart, connected with a line (or a piecewise linear path) to the piece. Pieces of a pie chart can be pulled outwards to be increased. If one wants to add fancy effects, the grown portions of the piece will flow back along the boundaries of the piece and push back the rest of the pie chart. Alternatively, the boundaries of the piece can be pushed apart to make the piece bigger.
  2. However, the usual mode of interacting with QP requires a much simpler method: Basically an evolution of the simple “like” button. A very simple mechanism would be clicking the button repeatedly to allocate multiple Esteem Points. Another possibility to keep pressing the button, which would increase EPs linearly or exponentially. Finally, the button could be replaced by a slider.