they should make us an offer …
Seems like the Corona virus is gonna destroy China now.
I feel like being cynical about this remark. Covid-19 only kills about 2-3% of infected individuals. Those are typically the old and immune compromised people. Those typically contribute very little towards the overall economy while still consuming significant resources. In a ruthlessly capitalistic economy, the loss of these parts of the population should be a boon.
We have to thank the Chinese leadership to hamper the spread of Covid-19 through the draconic quarantine measures.
Of course the reality is more complex. The Chinese leadership creates strong incentives for local administrators not to report any problems, so the early cases of Covid-19 weren’t reported. As any form of government a centralist authoritarian regime comes with its own drawbacks. That shouldn’t be surprising. No matter how the politics of China will evolve, the Chinese are many and smart. A moderate epidemic like Covid-19 is just a small hickup for a vibrant economy like that of China.
The sloth of the West is much more a problem for the West than Covid-19 is a problem for China.
seems like the corona- singularity will disrupt and revel a new world ordre now.
Come on, this is all gonna lead to WW3 against China.
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saubere analyse :
To me, it looks like in the long term everything is leading to major global warfare.
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The weak national leadership in the West was the source of an inconsistent response to the Covid19 pandemic. After too weak initial responses, the lockdowns were a hysterical overreaction that have damaged the economy severely while helping almost nothing against the pandemic itself (much more draconic lockdowns like those in China would have been necessary for that). This severely damaged the legitimacy of the Western national leaderships. A global civil war might be a plausible consequence, once the full weight of the economic crisis will hit the West.
While the West might be busy with getting its shit together, China will exploit that chaos to the greatest extent possible. It will establish a new world hegemony that will displace the reign of the US based plutocrats and megacorporations.
In any case, Europe is royally screwed. Either through corrupt elites or through the creeping influence from China. The best that Europe can hope for is to make itself as independent as possible, while still retaining some degree of civil liberty for its people.
Addendum: The analysis above might paint a too gloomy picture overall. Every major crisis is also a major chance. If the West, and especially Europe manage to reinvent themselves, they might become more vital than they have ever been. Annual growth rates above 10% might be possible with a shift to UBI, real time cybernetic direct democracies, crowd funded citizen everything, bottom up reputation systems, and major investments into AI, robotics, biotech, and nanotechnology. With lots of luck we could manage this transformation without too much violence.
I hope for that. WAR WAR WAR!!!
War is much cooler.
Why do you want to see the world burn so eagerly? Are you so dissatisfied with the current status quo that probably death seems to be so much more preferable?
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Compared to that
warfare is just much cooler! Also, war fastens technological development.
I especially love military aviation and ships.
Cut-throat men founded America with help of military puppets while robbing native Americans’ land, normalizing black slave trade, creating internalized misogyny from Christianity’s influence, making schools be dehumanizing institutions for working class slaves, and promoting the American dream illusion for immigrants.
The U.S. was and is always founded on genocide, slavery, dehumanizing schools that are a joke, etc.
There is a reason why the Europeans kicked the religious extremists out their countries. Those same religious extremists who were greedy psychos founded America.
America never was nor is a decent country where compassion, honesty, justice, family, and life are valued. Only war, death, rape, torture, brainwashing lower class slaves, con artistry, hypocrisy, sadism, profit, power, and control are what America’s owners value. So, they teach working class children to sell their souls to the devil metaphorically for profit, con artistry, war, torture, rape, etc. Which are all why P.T.S.D, depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, committed suicides, antisocial personality disorder, sociopathy, psychopathy, domestic violence, neglected children, poverty, homelessness, and other things are inevitable in the U.S.
America’s owners were and are never genuinely nice. They found a way to make more profitable power by increasing wealth inequality while infrastructure increasingly decays in America many decades ago.
Central bank cartels, elite-owned media companies, increasing wealth inequality, cheap labor from outsourcing, increasingly broken education systems, and government-tracked devices that spy on working class slaves keep them impoverished while very rich men who own America get very wealthy during the pandemic.
More Americans are living in tents and don’t have enough clean food, clean water, healthcare, etc. while these cut-throat men have economically abandoned the working class citizens who extremely suffer without justice in America.
Younger Americans have significantly lower I.Q’s than older Americans because of increasing wealth inequality, lack of easy access to higher education from artifically created student debt caused by cut-throat upper class people, expensive cost of living, and hard time staying healthy that all have been happening for many decades now. Younger Americans are less prepared to become intellectually competitive employees after graduating high school because of this increasing wealth inequality. It is why sports have become more popular in America because they don’t require much critical thinking and working class Americans are too poor to afford intellectual hobbies that let them have leisure time to think outside the box while being stuck in their workplaces because they are barely getting by financially. It is why working class Americans have become borderline braindead workaholics that lack critical thinking because they are so focused on working that they don’t focus on their intellectual growth. It’s why creativity is stifling in America. Even its pop music industry has become banal prostitution of sex disguised as love and commercialization of mediocre products. It’s braindead consumerism to keep the working class dumb while rich men get richer.
The Chineses will defeat these borderline braindead American degenerates who rot with junk food, polluted water, alcohol, harmful drugs, smoking, repetitive sports, banal Hollywood movies, banal pop music, warmongering death, P.T.S.D, depression, anxiety, obesity, poverty, lack of purchasing power for intellectual hobbies, etc.
The Chineses will outcompete Americans in regards to technological advancement.
The Chineses already surpass Americans in regards to I.Q. level. The Chineses are more mathematically and scientifically literate than most Americans. So, the Chineses are already surpass most Americans intellectually.
The Chineses are also surpassing most Americans in regards to health. The Chineses are more healthy than most Americans.
Most Americans demand products without being competent employees themselves. They demand things while being lazy or too poor to improve themselves. So, they are barely getting by in an already crumbling empire that very rich men leech off of.
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Given that I’ve written the OP in December 2019, that post looks frighteningly precient, considering the adoption of draconic authoritarian measures to fight Covid-19. It looks like the deciders of this world realized the apparent superiority of the Chinese model and try to roll it out as fast as possible in all nations of the globe.
Of couse, this roll out causes a lot of public resistance in the West where the ideals of personal freedom and democracy are still a central part of the political narrative. Especially where the measures have met a relatively cricital public, like in the USA and Europe, protests against authoritarian measures are on the rise. This may be mostly due to the stupidity and arbitrariness of many measures against Covid-19. Too few people realize what is really going on: A political restructuring of the whole world. In the early phase of the Covid-19 crisis I called it “Chinesification”. Nowadays many use the narrative of the “Great Reset”, laid out by the infamous head of the WEF Klaus Schwab. After having read the book with the same title and the book “The Fourth Industrial Revolution” I am quite appalled by the lack of visionary prowess that Mr. Schwab has displayed therein. His message feels like the most lackluster version of transhumanism that I’ve ever witnessed. In other words, it’s bullshit. Still, a lot of critial thinkers suspect a plan to erase personal freedoms behind the agenda of the WEF. I think it’s mostly distraction while the real decisions are made at meetings in which the public view is excluded.
What we are witnessing right now may be termed as “Great Awakening”. An increasing number of people are waking up to the sinister plans of a globalist plutocratic leadership that tries to increase its control over all people on this planet. In order not to raise too much suspicion, the erosion of personal freedom is done slice by slice. This has been going on for decades, but the speed at which this is happening has increased dramatically since the West has started to adopt authoritarian interventions legitimized through their alleged effectiveness at keeping a relatively mild pandemic at bay. This raised the level of suspicion of the critically thinking part of the population. But instead of moderating the intensity of their measures, the degree of the erosion of personal freedoms is accelerated. For an elite that aims at controlling all of humanity, this doesn’t seem like a rational approach. That they pull through against all public resistance and maximize the levels of censorship indicates that this elite is under an unprecedented amount of pressure. Otherwise it would relax its tempo and plan the dismantling of democracy and freedom better.
The interesting question is what will happen when this Great Awakening in the West will succeed. At first, the West will probably still be confronted with a largely authoritarian and collectivist East against it will have to compete. So, the West will have to reinvent, or at least recollect itself after returning to the ideals of freedom, democracy, and souvereignty. This might release enough creative potential to cause a new renaissance that dramatically increases the rate of technological and societal progress. In this scenario, the West would quickly outcompete the East after which the latter would be compelled to imitate the first.
While it may be true that the USA is suffering from a lot of systemic problems, China also has its fair share of systemic dysfunctions that may cause its demise sooner or later. Neither sphere of influence does seem to have a robust system for dealing with corruption. A reinvigorated USA, in which people rise against the powers that caused its corruption, might come up with a solution. Even if the USA might lose its status as dominant world power, it might regain a status as role model for the rest of the world. I truly hope that this will happen, because the political vitality of Europe has suffered a lot under the shadow of US dominance. Europe has become too subservient to the “border powers” of the USA and China to create a souvereign solution, which would have been the solution that I had preferred initially. Still, Europe might soon become a part of the solution, rather than part of the problem, if its people realize quickly enough what’s at play right now.
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Countries were never controlled by rulers who care about freedom and democracy. It’s all about money, power, control, greed, and stupidity.
The Americas, Africa, Asia, and Europe were always controlled by oligarchs.
Freedom is an illusion to keep blind optimists happy.
Democracy is a euphemism to disguise who the real and wealthy leaders are.
After World War 2, Europe was losing economic power while America’s cut-throat empire grew stronger economically.
Working class Americans were always used as fodder for the American war machine since America was created. They are used as fodder still. Because these oligarchs who rule America profit from endless wars. It’s about money. Not democracy, protecting human rights, and compassion.
The working class Americans are given broken school systems to keep them indoctrinated with brainwashing, not intellectually liberated. Chinese oligarchs are brainwashing working class people with social credit scores, banning things like V.P.Ns, Orwellian online surveillance, and other dehumanizing things. It’s about making these working class people dumb enough to be easily manipulated by wealthy oligarchs.
Currently, R.T. America has been banned globally. So, it is making oligarchy show its ruthless head rather than democracy and freedom to watch media without having governments act like parents. Governments these days have been increasingly acting like totalitarian parents telling what people can and should do. The reason for this is because ultra-wealthy oligarchs have already made their New World Order come true. These ultra-wealthy oligarchs rule America’s empire. They use America’s empire to bully non-American countries with their military-industrial complex, leechy international trade policies, sweatshops to keep some “independent” countries poor forcibly (which puts underaged girls into sex trafficking to make ends meet), online surveillance, and censorship. It’s not about democracy and protecting human rights at this point.
Protecting human rights has become a joke everywhere now. Because all countries are financially supporting sweatshops in countries where underaged girls are involved in sex trafficking to make ends meet.
Feminism has become a joke, too. Because ultra-wealthy oligarchs have economically bullied sweatshop countries into poverty until internalized misogyny from sex trafficking inevitably happens.
These rich and famous celebrity sellouts are there to distract working class people with propaganda controlled by ultra-wealthy oligarchs while non-American citizens from sweatshop countries suffer.
Otherwise, Europe has online surveillance, censorship, the banning of R.T. America, high taxes, central bank cartels controlled by elites, and other things that represent Orwellian things.
Russia has been lied about by Europe and America’s mainstream media propaganda after World War 2. Because Russian oligarchs refused to have central bank cartels in Russia allowing America and Europe’s oligarchs to loot money. That is why Russian banks are decentralised and cannot be corrupted by oligarchs who control Europe and America. It’s all about greed for money, power, and control. Not democracy nor human rights.
If oligarchy, greed, and other crap ended after World War 2, Russia would have not invaded Ukraine. Russia’s oligarchs don’t want to be debt slaves to other countries. So, they invaded Ukraine to spread the Russian empire.
China and Russia’s oligarchs are working together to plan on attacking America’s oligarchs. China does not have enough military power that America has. So, China’s oligarchs are attacking countries to spread the Chinese empire for increasing military power. Europe is in the middle of this pre-World War 3. Europe has no military and economic powers that surpass America or China. So, Europe will be screwed when China and Russia’s oligarchs start attacking European nations.
The middle eastern oligarchs could possibly join Russia and China to vengefully declare war on America. Because America’s kleptocratic military-industrial complex has terrorised the middle eastern countries to only benefit living ultra-wealthy oligarchs who rule America while working class American soldiers die.
America’s monstrous militarians have caused toxic masculinity to inevitably cause internalized misogyny. This is why feminism is a joke until these toxic people don’t have power to control countries anymore.
The United States has systemic slavery via increasing wealth inequality to destroy social mobility, systemic racism by not allowing foreigners to be presidents, systemic ableism from working class slaves having wealth inequality prevent self-improvement, systemic theocracy based on misogynistic religion for religious grifting via taking poor people’s money by fake charity in churches while pedophilic priests or pastors live luxuriously, systemic pedophilia by not banning child marriage in every state to prevent old sickos from grooming minors, systemic anti-intellectualism via having mainstream media owned by oligarchs to indoctrinate working class Americans with propaganda (especially from elitist gag orders), etc. It is no wonder that Edward Snowden and Julian Assange stayed away from America.
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All right, I think we need a way to cut through the bullshit that is spread by the deep state. Currently, there is obviously a propaganda war going on in order to demonize Russia. The last instance of the propaganda war was that against the opponents against the anti-Covid19 measures. What’s good about the current situation is that it has become obvious, how the Western elites that control the media operate. Anything that opposes the current agenda is demonized in the strongest way possible.
Vice versa, the current agenda is that agenda whose opponents are demonized in the strongest fashion. So, the current agenda is war and poverty. War against Russia, because … it has been prepared so long it advance, so please let the military industrial complex have its field day, please? Of course, humanitarian donations are used to purchase more weapons in order to prolong this war, anything else would simply be madness, wouldn’t it?
And inflation is skyrocketing because … well, how do you suppose the states are able to get rid of their astronomical debt otherwise? Anyone who still has the majority of their savings in a bank is a bloody fool.
People in Europe are waking up to the fact, that their governments merely fulfill their role as vassal states of the USA, or even the WEF. This situation is only exacerbated by the economic crisis that is deepened by the Ukraine conflict.
Now, more and more people are starting to get really angry about their governments. Politicians start to fear for their lives – for good reasons! The West will soon see its own Arab Spring. And that will shatter many of the remaining illusions that so many people still cling on to.
The real question is: What will come after that? After all, a change in the ruling figures won’t necessarily change the underlying agendas. Even after a series of revolutions, we could still approach the Chinese (CCP) model of total surveillance. How do we escape that fate?
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Anything that opposes the current agenda these ultra-wealthy oligarchs enforce is demonitized, too. Because demonitization is a tool for censorship. Investigative journalists have bad their online bank accounts frozen. Which that shows oligarchy showing its ruthless head.
Poverty is increased in America to turn most Americans into passive neanderthals with toxic attitudes for the purpose of making elites more powerful and wealthy. This helps keep many Americans enslaved in the military-industrial complex. Which allows these endless wars to make elites powerfully wealthy while many people die and suffer. So, there is war against Russia, Syria, Iraq, Cuba, and other countries. Some Cubans have left Cuba because it has been economically bullied by American interventionism. Some Iraqis left Iraq because it has been infrastructurally destroyed by America’s ruthless military-industrial complex. Some Russians have left Russia because of its homophobic oligarchs that cause Russia’s modern censorship that is draconian.
Inflation is skyrocketing because elites have been leeching off of countries’ resources including people for many decades with the central bank cartels and military-industrial complex.
Europe fighting against this American empire since the day it was stolen land, keeping taxes moderate rather than very high to allow people purchasing power, not having commumistic form of heavy government regulation, legalizing free speech laws, illegalizing online surveillance, and normalizing cultures where freethought is valued more than dehumanization would have prevented European nations from being puppet countries of America. That would have made European countries have enough economic power to prevent themselves from being more vulnerable than this America’s empire. Until most Europeans have real economic freedom, free speech, online privacy, capitalism, moderate taxes for purchasing power, no more financial support for environmentally unfriendly sweatshops, and the ability to own their products for a long time without planned obsolescence, I see global warming, human rights violations, wealth inequality, unethically unfair power dynamics, etc. in the future getting worse.
People are getting angry at their goverments because that is how increasingly bad things have become to most people versus ultra-wealthy elites. Most people are dealing with wealth inequality, global warming, products from sweatshops, lack of internet freedom, online surveillance, censorship, and mainstream media propaganda that keeps America’s imperialists powerfully wealthy. All of this started to happen after World War 2. But the people from developed nations were blindly optimistic when World War 2 ended. Then, the C.I.A. from America perverted this hippie movement to weaponize drugs for MKUltra. The hippie movement was originally about love, peace, happiness, compassion, anti-war, and not being an irresponsible idiot doing drugs for fun without paying attention to consequences. But it got perverted into turning people into irresponsible idiots doing drugs and having sex while having consequences be damned. It’s all about oligarchs turning people into impulsive consumers that buy things whether it’s drugs, alcohol, sex, violence, beauty, or whatever. They literally funded the feminism movement in America to keep women away from their children by seperating them in workplaces and schools. Because they don’t want mothers teaching their children about morals, critical thinking, how elites are screwing over future generations by burning our world, and other things. All of these things leading up to present time caused U.S. workers being treated worse than medieval peasants. American mothers, especially black females, are treated like disposable garbage with America’s ruthless healthcare systems, lack of paternity leave, ridiculous wealth inequality, and misogynistic abortion laws that cause America to have much more maternal deaths including drastic mental health illnesses than other developed nations. People are getting angry because the situation has become increasingly bad enough that their minds are alert now. Also, more people have access to the internet to figure things out now. So, the internet is a reason why more people have connected the dots about how screwed up things have become internationally. If people had access to the internet right after World War 2, the Europeans, Africans, Asians, Americans, and Latin Americans would have probably been more prepared to prevent this 2022 dystopia. But the damage has been done anyway. China’s oligarchs are successfully brainwashing Chinese people into this Borg-like mentality with social credit scores, banning V.P.Ns, no free press, slave labor from Apple, etc. The Japanese people are continuing this dehumanizing collectivism and their cut-throat business model that inevitably increases suicide rates, depression, anxiety, dysfunctional families putting on a facade to save face, etc.
We escape this fate by imprisoning the oligarchs who caused brainwashing, endless wars, human rights violations like sweatshops, and other things. I am not suggesting we escape this fate through civil wars, war in general, violence, or bloodshed. I find many people are tired of war, death, and sadness that happens due to deaths. The American soldiers are only serving because America’s ruthless elites causing increasing wealth inequality and human rights violations have caused them to sell their souls desperately. These American soldiers, deep down, want better lives without all of this P.T.S.D. and death that happens because of war. These American soldiers are treated like disposable cogs in the war machine. There are American soliders who know this and hate it. Because they know, deep down, there could be a better world without all of this pain, suffering, and death caused by greedy parasites. These ruthless elites know that biological males are less likely to be risk-averse due to hardwired biology from hard science. These ruthless elites also know that biological males are easier to turn into immoral weapons. Also, these ruthless elites know how to fool biological males into believing they have power. That is why these ruthless elites keep their countries impoverished with propaganda, censorship, and broken school systems to prevent slaves from fighting against this toxic masculinity war machine that inevitbaly leads to internalized misogyny including domestic violence against women. We escape this fate by reversing the human rights violations that happen globally. We escape this fate by removing poverty. We escape this fate by having businesses that benefit people instead of wealthy elites only.
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I feel China’s “soft force” methodology is underexposed. It might well be that through puppeteering over Russia’s internal conflicts, through more advanced means of espionage for example, a larger power projection is produced than one would expect. Certainly, there seems to be something odd happening with politicians receiving money from that direction.
Sometimes, I feel that many of the more ill adviced public opinions are the result of sustained propaganda. Jokes from Daoists, playing distant games.
It might be worth considering that during the Korean War, the military perspective was to provoke China and beat them (and the rest of ‘communism’) in decisive war. The civil government reigned the military in. I’m not sure if this was to prevent a ‘Japanification’ of the military, ie just to maintain control, or whether this was a well considered choice. Certainly, it saved a vast amount of lives. Likely, especially on the Chinese side.
That decision, obviously, expected the ‘soft force’, or plain compelling nature of the American way of life to dominate whatsoever happens in China. That, or it was a desire to preserve an alternative.
Whether or not we now live in a CIA dystopia as opposed to a CCP distopia is a question on my mind. Certainly, in Europe, would we even notice the changeover? I am especially wondering if the Chinese mindset does not, even in a locally inferior position, already gain much more in the way of powers.
I feel the European mindset is far too lax. With many academics quite interested in a large scale communist experiment, willing to brush offenses under the table as growth problems. All the data we’re collecting and centralizing, isn’t it data for the largest parties? Economically, Europe has done a great deal of work in the past, but it hardly looks to be competing now.
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I think that’s a false dichotomy. The methods of the CIA and the CCP are far from being completely dissimilar. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a large degree of collaboration between both, especially when there may be powers that use both organizations as tools for their own purposes. A truly patriotic CIA wouldn’t tolerate the extreme meddling of China in the American industry and markets, especially not the rampant IP “theft”.
The difference between the CIA model and the CCP model is that the latter uses a much more overt form of control. The actual difference between surveillance in China and the rest of the world is that Chinese citizens know how they are surveilled. That knowledge may be of advantage, but the terror that is imposed by a ruthless regime makes most people too afraid to oppose the party. Criticism of the government is tolerated to a small (and rapidly decreasing) degree in the West, but criticism of certain critical aspects of the way the economy is run can get you “disappeared” no matter what position you hold.
Also, it’s easier to get rid of a ruling party or regime than getting rid of a secret service. Those who demand such an action must fear for their lives, no matter who they are. If people get angry about a regime, it may fall. On the other hand, secret services usually are operating too much in secret for people to get angry about them.
Anyway, we probably live in a simultaneous CIA and CCP dystopia, since we are facing both covert and overt forms of oppression. The only way to escape that is a broad societal coalition with the will to get rid of both!
The high standard of living in Europe does seem to have bred a certain degree of complacency. There hasn’t been a strong effort to try competing with powers like the USA, China, or even “merely” Russia. Rather than trying to become a serious regional power, Europe has been content to be a junior partner/vassal of the US. That was the plan of certain forces within the USA, and they have succeeded so far.
Even if Europe decided to join the BRICS, that wouldn’t change too much about the junior role of Europe. Europe lacks the abundance of resources that the US, Russia, and China enjoy, so getting to a place of regional autonomy, autarky, and sovereignty is really hard. The resource requirements in the 21st century are different from those of the 19th century in which Europe still could dominate the globe.
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