Introduction to the Fractal Cosmos Project

I finished the introduction to the Fractal Future Project. Is there anything you guys would like to change?

Radivis, could you please pin this topic globally?

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It’s a pretty good text. Quite inviting and engaging. But I wouldn’t set the score to short to middle term future, but rather medium to long term future. Or better just state the time span in years explicitly, because different people have different ideas what “short” or “long” mean. So, what’s the scope here? 2020-2100 or something? Or do we want to focus more on a certain time period?

Oh, and I’ve fixed more than a dozen typos in your text. You’ll probably find the use of a good spell checker advantageous. Anyway, if this text is to all our contentment, we can publish it on the Social Future Blog (yes, we actually have one, but it’s almost never used). And then share that blog post on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and wherever else you like.

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We can invite on places like reddit.com/r/worldbuilding. And would a wiki be a more appropriate place to write? The forum could get gloriously flooded with continuous publications.
Also I would now add the license too, I think we all agree to make it CC-0, and saying how much we dedicate for this project to be FREE and able to be remixed is going to attract a lot of attention.

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I think that stating a fixed time span in years might be a little restrictive. I agree that near and mid-term future are quite ambiguous concepts, but flexibility is also very important.

Anyway, if I had to choose a scope I would say something like 2020-2150, because I would like to explore the colonization of the whole solar system and that would take time.

Yes should do that. Anyone knows any popular sci-fi forums?

I think the forum is a pretty good platform for discussion, but not for the presentation of a “final” work. People may find a wiki more appealing.

CC-0 is fine for me. We don’t have anything to keep from the world

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So, we’re gonna share this or what?

It’s probably best to share this again and again. Every time we make some significant progress we start another round of reaching out. In any case, we can start sharing this thread on Facebook and Twitter and stuff.

Edit: I’ve just shared this in a few transhumanist groups on Facebook and on Twitter.

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Nice. I’ve shared it a few sci-fi fan communities. I hope someone notices it.

I’ve just edited this topic.

I changed the name from “Introduction to Fractal Future Project” to “Introduction to the Fractal Cosmos Project” and added a summary of the ideas ideas we’ve already come up with

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Well done! I think, it would be awesome if you registered on the Fractal Future Blog at http://fractalfuture.net (left bottom) and wrote an introduction post to the Fractal Cosmos project on the blog. You could take the description in the opening post here and add a nice picture or logo (nowadays that really seems to be a requirement for serious blog posts).

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I’ve just registered.

I know nothing about creating logos and stuff, but it can’t hurt to learn. Do you know off any good software that is avaiable for free in the internet?

Great! I’ve just granted you “author” rights on the blog. You can now write posts, but I will then “publish” them officially.

When it comes to logos and stuff, Photoshop is a really great software, but it’s expensive. If you want freeware, then Gimp is probably the best option (it’s the software that I use). It’s really worth learning to use such a graphics program even if you don’t want to make really professional looking graphics.

When it comes to graphics for WordPress blog posts I don’t have any high demands. If it looks fitting and is legal, then it’s fine. I often use Google Images and then filter for licenses that allow reuse of the image in question. Of course, there are also lots of sites with stock photos, but finding and navigating them is a bit more demanding than just googling good pictures :smiley:

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Hi, I just found this forum, and I’m still trying to figure out exactly what this is. It’s hard science fiction mixed with futurism? Science fiction as a way to plan humanity’s real future?

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Hi orangepeel. Welcome to Fractal Future Forum.

Yeah, I guess you can say that.

When the forum was created our founder (Michael Hrenka) intended it to be kind of an incubator for several kinds of futurist projects. I don’t think science fiction was supposed to play such an important role at the time, but then, afew months later, I had the idea of starting a colective worldbuilding project with this community. The idea was basically what you said, using science fiction to create a blueprint for a better future. This project (now called Fractal Cosmos) was Fractal Future Forum’s most successful to the date, despite now being somewhat dormant, and it persuaded some people to give more importance to science-fiction writing and worldbuilding.

So yeah, nowdays the forum is pretty much what you said, despite the fact that it still harbours futurist projects of very different types.

Anyway, I hope you stay with us. We could use another contributer to help us develop Fractal Cosmos and the other universes.

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Welcome to the Fractal Future Forum, @orangepeel :smiley:

The Fractal Cosmos Project is one of the projects that are supported by the Fractal Future Network. The FFN mainly consists of this Fractal Future Forum (F3), as well as a blog and a wiki, which are free to use by community members, but this offer hasn’t really been taken up much. As Joao said, the intention of Fractal Future was to help futurist projects to get started and support them with some basic online infrastructure and a common platform for communication and collaboration. I created this platform out of a discontent with the pre-existing futurist / technoprogressive / transhumanist platforms, which were less focused on open collaboration and intelligent mind-expanding discussions.

The futurist projects which gained most traction here are the Transhuman Party Germany (which has a hidden category in the F3), as well as the Fractal Cosmos Project, which is a world building project, which as you’ve rightly found out, is hard science fiction mixed with futurism. It’s supposed to be at the same time realistic, as well as optimistic about our future.

We were trying to get more active contributors for the Fractal Cosmos Project, but it turned out that finding them is pretty hard. The apparent hiatus of the project could easily be lifted, when even a single person decided to add their ideas and visions to the project. :relieved:

I’d suggest you look at:

That was the first thing I thought of when reading the intro to this. The cross-over between science fiction and table-top RPGs is a bit… tense on occasion, but, I’d have thought any input could be useful.

Yes, I am a science fiction author (amateur), and a table-top RPG player and ref. :slight_smile:

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Thanks for your feedback about Fractal Cosmos resembling Transhuman Space quite a lot. I haven’t looked very deeply into Transhuman Space, yet. What do you like most about that sci-fi world?

I’ve not played in that world, so my knowledge of it is from reading the rules and reports from players and play testers (for scenarios). I think I know the author, who is quite an impressive writer. Quite a few transhumanist concepts are well handled, such as issues of identity, and what (legally) constitutes a person.

I don’t particularly like GURPS Transhuman Space, but it looks like somewhere you could use to create quite a usable story. Talking about the nature of ‘story’, science fiction as a genre tends to produce open-ended stories, ones with ‘possibilities’. Compare with most horror, for example, which produces ‘closed’ stories, where the only ‘possibilities’ are for more future horror.

World building in science fiction is a particularly tricky art. Typically, you want characters that the reader can identify with, and circumstances that while strange still seem on some level reasonable. Asking questions like: What will China and India do about their gender imbalance, for example. Will the Internet Of Things be the Internet of Disasters? Are nanobots actually possible? :slight_smile:

So many possibilities…

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I got done reading this. But I have no hope for humanity. The internet has been captured by tyrants and fake intellectuals who subjugate people in a regressive way. Many decades ago, the internet used to be an open-minded place with discussions without draconian censorship. That is no longer the case. Now, you got power-tripping people controlling subreddits, Discord servers, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and other platforms that became garbage with toxicity. I was treated a lot better on the internet many decades ago. Now, I get cyberbullied on many online platforms. I would like to wish for a future where people get improved with science, technology, engineering, mathematics, language, and other things. But people have become a toxic mob online banning people like crazy left and right. And also, more online platforms do not respect people’s privacy by being against V.P.N.s. This is frightening considering government mass surveillance is a human rights violation being weaponized by tyrants right now. Which is why there are journalists using V.P.N.s to avoid getting kidnapped and imprisoned by tyrannical government authorities in the first place. Julian Assange probably used V.P.N.s to avoid getting kidnapped by America’s monstrous intelligence agents who are complicit in Israel’s illegal genocide against Palestinians. Sorry, but you cannot call yourself a decent person if you support killing innocent kids for a political cause. You’re a monster at that point. Humans are not improving. They are actually regressing, especially with a generational wealth gap crisis and other crises.

I am tired of people saying they care about kids. If they cared, they would stop having their taxes fund endless wars that kill kids. They would also stop buying phones made by child slaves. The more honest answer is that they probably only care about their own kids. Not all kids.

Despite me wishing there was a future where humans are not limited by their destructive human nature that is worse than other species, you will be hard-pressed to get people improving very fast anyway. For example, you got people wanting to keep their disabilities because that gives them individuality. But it stagnates human improvement. You also got abusive people wanting to pass down their disabilities onto their kids genetically. It’s so kids will be clones of their fucked up parents. It’s abuse either way because disabilities hinder kids from succeeding in life. That’s why I’m not having kids in this fucked up world. I have disabilities that make people socially and professionally ostracized. It’s usually people winning the genetic lottery getting friends and jobs easily. Not me. People treat me like shit when I’m not perfect enough to be their friend or hired employee. The online world has become increasingly hostile against disabled and physically unattractive people like me, too. Hollywood films don’t portray people like me. It portrays people who are more physically attractive and able-bodied than me. People don’t really like watching movies that portray characters like me anyway. People like to pretend society is better. But there is no society. There is only a ruthless economy and people putting on polite facades now. There used to be more friendly people many decades ago. But that is no longer the case. Now, it’s just predators trying to exploit weak people like me for profit since compassion became unprofitable.